True Christians: How can we know you’re *the* True Christians?
During the crusades, True Christians marched on Jerusalem or supported their troops, and those who spoke out against them were not considered True Christians….Yet Martin of Tours was generally considered a true Christian by them. He threw down his sword and said a man couldn’t be a solider and a True Christian.
During the Protestant Witch-hunts and Catholic Inquisition, people who opposed the church were killed, even if they opposed the church killing people. These people were “not True Christians.” Now the hunters and inquistors are “not true Christians.”
Some Christians have been on the wrong side of civil rights, the wrong side of slavery, the wrong side of child labor, the wrong side of human rights and now many Christians tell us they were “not True Christians”
So, I ask you, when you say you are a True Christian, how can we believe you…why should we believe you…. when history‘s going to label you a false Christian?
What evidence can support your claim?
Labgrrrl: Here is what I have found.
When I’ve asked that question of some of my fundamentalist brothers and sisters, the answer I get is something like:
“Well, back then, when some Christians were saying that the earth was flat and the center of the solar system, they just didn’t know everything that we know now. Today we are given all the answers by Jesus.”
“Well, back then, when some Christians were saying that black people weren’t really human beings and so slavery was ok because it’s condoned in the Bible, they just didn’t know everything that we know now. Today we are given all the answers by Jesus.”
“Well, back then, when some Christians were saying that Jewish people weren’t really human beings and so their mass execution was ok, they just didn’t know everything that we know now. Today we are given all the answers by Jesus.”
So it brings up the question: in 100 yrs, when somebody asks a fundamentalist of the future why his doctrinal ancestors oppressed, slandered, and called for the murder of gay people, they’ll say “Well back then, when some Christians were saying that it was ok to oppress gay people ….”
Etc, etc, etc.
Can you pleases help me summarize this ( 10 pts)?
A century ago, 300 African Americans worked together to establish the town of Allensworth, California, a community that thrived for many years. Recently, a two-day celebration was held there to honor the town’s 100th birthday. The celebration also paid tribute to the town’s place in the history of civil rights.
In honor of its 100th birthday, Allensworth hosted a variety of family events. These included bike rides, music and dance performances, history exhibits, and town tours. Thousands attended. Several guest speakers talked about the town. They said that to its residents, it was more than a hometown; it was a new beginning.
The town of Allensworth is located between Los Angeles and San Francisco. It was founded in 1908 by a retired Army colonel and escaped slave. His name was Allen Allensworth. Allensworth held the honor of being the Army’s first African-American colonel. He served in the Civil War. Allensworth set up the town on fertile land in California’s San Joaquin Valley. He imagined a place where African Americans could own property and live with dignity in a self-sufficient farming community. His goal was to a build a town that would thrive. He believed it would then alter the poor views of African Americans during a time of intense racism. These views were evidenced first by slavery and then by Jim Crow segregation laws.
“[It was] a conscious effort to combat racism at a time when there was very little [being done to combat it],” said Lonnie G. Bunch. Bunch is founding manager of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture. Allensworth was unique in its sociological and political mission, Bunch said. “It was more than creating an all-African-American community; there was a national political strategy involved in the founding of Allensworth that makes it unique.”
Recognizing that education would be the key to their success, Allensworth residents placed great importance on learning. The town made the school the largest building in town. Citizens taxed themselves in order to hire an additional teacher beyond the one paid for by the state. City planners initially pictured a college in the town center. In 1913, however, California’s state government voted down funding during its drive to end segregation. In addition to schools, townspeople valued libraries as a source of learning and erected the county’s first free public library.
The public library was only one of the town’s many firsts. Allensworth residents elected California’s first African-American justice of the peace. They also elected the first African-American constable.
“I call the Allensworth pioneers ‘Genius People,’” said Alice Calbert Royal. Royal was born in Allensworth in 1923. “They had a vision that would uplift an entire race of people,” she said.
Allensworth flourished for 12 years, until several events caused the town to decline. Colonel Allensworth died suddenly. The wells that irrigated the town’s farms dried up. The Santa Fe railroad moved the train’s stop to a neighboring town. Eventually, educated young people began moving away in search of jobs.
But Allensworth is sometimes referred to as “the town that refused to die.” It went on to assume a different form. In the 1970s, the California government recognized the town’s historical importance. It turned Allensworth into a state park. Since then, on streets named after such influential African Americans as Sojourner Truth and Booker T. Washington, many of Allensworth’s buildings have been restored. These buildings include several houses, two general stores, a church, and a schoolhouse.
“Out of this community came people who believed… that anything is possible,” said Lonnie Bunch, who spoke at the celebration. `
In 1908 the town of Allensworth, California was established. This town was established by an army colonel named Allen Allensworth. He was the first African American Colonel in the Civil War. Allen wanted to establish a town for African Americans that would thrive, promote self dignity among AAs and help rid the negative views lots of AAs had about society during an intense time of racism.
Allen wanted to work on advancing african americans so he wanted to make sure that this new town was focused on educating african americans. Education would be the key to AAs success in America. The largest building in this town was the school.
Im sure you can add some more sentences.
Christians and people who can answer understandingly plz!?
Please answer seriously. I’m confused enough as it is.
Well… I knew this boy since I was in the older grades in elementary school. I immediately felt a certain way towards him, but I wouldn’t call it a crush. It was more of a nostalgic-ish feeling, even though I had just met him. I did have a little crush on him later on though.
Throughout school, we have been drawn to each other, even though it is kept quiet. I think that is the reason we could never get over the other.
It’s weird though, because the feeling is unlike anything that I can describe. It is that nostalgic feeling, although it’s like the nostalgia comes from looking forward, not back, although who says that we would be in each other’s future? I tried and try to agree with my doubts, and yet, this feeling wouldn’t and still won’t go away.
I believe that God has a will for each of us. And I thought; well, maybe this boy is in His plan for me somehow. Then I disagreed, because I am only just heading towards the beginning of High School- why would something like that come to me this early? The inner battle continued. Finally, I started to pray.
We had this tour of an old church near my school. As the people were talking about it’s history, I randomly thought about that boy. (He is a grade above me, so it wasn’t like I saw him and was reminded to think about him.) And no, I don’t obsessively think about him all the time. He only really pops into my head when I’m around him, and when I think about my future. I seldom think about him during classes. That weird nostalgic feeling came over me again. Actually, the church carried the nostalgic feeling.
When I was in prayer, asking for guidance about the meaning of the strange feeling and my thoughts about it, I saw a vision. I’M NOT SAYING I’M PSYCHIC! I don’t believe in that. It wasn’t a day dream, either. It was very much a miracle. O.K. So it was me and that boy as adults saying our vows at that very church. I pushed it away as soon as it was gone and tried not to think about it. But I couldn’t. It just kept on coming back. Whenever I thought about my future even before that, he always popped into the picture. He just always… fit. Even beyond my feelings towards him.
So a few weeks ago, I had my first band practice. I learned that the boy had quit band, which was how I knew him. I thought that maybe my doubts were correct. But then, a friend of mine joined the church. She’s in a youth group there, and she saw the boy.
It all seems to tie together for me somehow. So I am I meant for him? Insight on this? I don’t know what to think!
I would say that if God has a will for each of you and you find that your thinking about him ,maybe there is a great purpose for this .If not to be b/f and g/f then maybe God wants the 2 of you together as friend’s for support as there might be something in the future that one will need the other to lean on . If the feelings won’t cease it has got to be something
Can I get into Dartmouth College?
So, I live in rural northern Minnesota (sort of an uncommon area) and my great and great-great-grandfathers both went to Dartmouth. My grandfather went to the University of Chicago. I am home schooled, and have been in contact with the Director of Admissions since 10th grade. I am INCREDIBLY paranoid that I will not get in! I guess I will just list everything, please don’t make fun of me:
* Home school Basketball (10-12th grade)
* WHA Speech (11-12th grade)
* WHA Track and Field (9-12th grade)
† Home school Drama (9-11th grade)
† Home school Speech (10th grade)
‡ Lakes Area Mathematics and Science club (11-12th grade, president and founder)
‡ Trig-Star competitor (12th grade)
‡ Northern Minnesota Mathematics Contest competitor (12th grade)
‡ Eta Sigma Alpha National Home School Honor Society Omega Chapter member (11-12th grade)
* National Forensics League (11-12th grade)
‡ Mu Eta Sigma National Math Honor Society (11-12th grade)
‡ MENSA member (11-12th grade)
‡ The National Society of High School Scholars (11-12th grade)
† Leadership Plenty (10th grade)
* Greater Akeley Youth Council (10-12th grade)
* Church youth group member (9-12th grade)
* Akeley Horizons Member (10-12th grade)
† Itasca-Mantrap Youth Tour alternate (11th grade)
‡ University of Minnesota Mini Medical School (12th grade)
* St. Joseph’s Area Health Services Jr. Volunteer 2nd Floor (9-12th grade)
* St. Joseph’s Area Health Services Volunteer Laboratory (11-12th grade)
‡ Local food shelf volunteer (11-12th grade)
‡ Rotary Foundation volunteer (11-12th grade)
* Church VBS volunteer (9-12th grade)
* Church youth ministry volunteer (9-12th grade)
† Cancer benefit volunteer (10th grade)
* Currently involved
‡ Looking into
Science: Biology, Chemistry, Advanced Chemistry, Advanced Biology
Mathematics: Algebra I, Algebra II, Geometry, Trigonometry, Pre-calculus, Calculus
English: 9th grade: English Composition, Calligraphy, Grammar, Classical Vocabulary
English: 10th grade: Sophomore English, Shakespeare
English: 11th grade: Junior English, Grammar, Classical Vocabulary
English: 12th grade: Intro to Literature (PSEO), English Lab (PSEO), Grammar, Classical Vocab
Social Studies: Ancient World History, History of the Church, Current Events – Economics, History of Western Civilization (PSEO), Intro to Geography (PSEO)
Foreign Language: Greek 1 (Rosetta Stone), Greek 2 (Rosetta Stone), 3 years of Koine Greek, Elementry Greek I (PSEO), and Beginning German.
(I also took Art and Piano in 9th grade)
I am in 11th grade, and any of the courses I haven’t taken yet I am planning to take. I have a 4.0 GPA, and as a sophomore got a 166 on the PSAT, and a 22 on the ACT. I know they are very low scores for the Ivy League, but I have not even taken the SAT yet. I am planning on taking the SAT II test for World History and U.S. History. Also, I am going to take 7-8 AP tests: Chemistry, World History, European History, U.S. History, Human Geography, Biology, English Literature, and possibly Calculus AB. Additionally, my two letters of recommendation will be my speech coach and the CEO of the hospital where I volunteer. I will be applying Early Decision to the college this fall. What are my chances?
I still have my great-great-grandfather’s 1875 diploma, his Phi-Beta-Kappa gold watch, and a Dartmouth sheepskin banner from the same era!
If you home schooled, how can your 4.0 GPA have any legitimacy?
It is all on your SAT, Kiddo. Have some back-up schools.
Did Mormons discuss and agree with new Baptism Policy?
REPORTED today on NPR (Weekend Edition Sunday) was this Howard Berkes story about the changes in the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS :
Mormons around the world are getting this warning Sunday: Stop posthumous baptisms of “unauthorized groups, such as celebrities and Jewish Holocaust victims.”
“Our preeminent obligation is to seek out and identify our own ancestors,” says a letter to be read in every Mormon congregation. “Those whose names are submitted for proxy [baptisms] should be related to the submitter.”
Mormons who continue to embarrass the faith by submitting the names of celebrities and Holocaust victims for the proxy baptism rite will lose access to the Mormon genealogical records, the letter warns. “Other corrective action may also be taken,” it says.
The letter is signed by church President Thomas Monson and his two “counselors” in the Mormon First Presidency, the top leadership of the faith.
The warning follows an avalanche of criticism about the Mormon practice of baptizing deceased souls into the faith. In recent weeks, an excommunicated Mormon who continues to do genealogical research in church baptism records has found the names of prominent Jews and Holocaust victims, including Anne Frank and Daniel Pearl, the Wall Street Journal reporter captured and killed by terrorists in Pakistan in 2002.
“We welcome this as an important step,” says Abraham Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League and a Holocaust survivor.
“Church members should understand why proxy baptisms are so offensive to the Jewish people,” Foxman adds, citing “near annihilation during the Holocaust simply because they were Jewish” and “forced conversions throughout history.”
Jewish leaders first raised concerns about the practice and the inclusion of Holocaust victims in 1992. Several meetings with Mormon leaders in the two decades since have resulted in promises to remove the names of Holocaust victims from Mormon baptism rolls and to screen baptism lists for those who died in concentration camps.
But some Mormons continued to place the names on baptism lists and conduct proxy baptisms in which the name of the deceased is read aloud while a living proxy is immersed in water.
The controversial practice has even touched the presidential campaign of Republican Mitt Romney, a faithful Mormon. Holocaust survivor and Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel called on Romney to denounce inappropriate baptisms after discovering Wiesel family members had been posthumously baptized.
Romney’s campaign referred questions about Wiesel’s statement to the Mormon Church.
Mormons believe the ceremony has no effect if the deceased soul rejects it.
Mormon policy, as the letter restates, is to confine the baptisms to ancestors, but as recently as 2009, one of the highest-ranking leaders of the church indicated otherwise.
Quentin Cook is one of the faith’s Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, the group at the top of church leadership. During a tour of a new Mormon Temple in Draper, Utah, Cook described the posthumous baptism practice and belief.
“We concentrate first of all on our ancestors and then for the people in the world at large,” Cook told NPR.
10 points for your congregation’s perspective and the viewpoint of those on this L D S CHURCH change — thanks and God bless you
This is an extremely odd way to “proselytize” — it is only by way of angry ex-Mormons that these “by-Name” Proxy Baptisms are taking place
Those of that Church membership should be ashamed that some are seeking to incorporate people of the Book who were never acquainted with this 19th century faith propagated by Joseph Smith into a “Master-Record” . . .
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